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  • breakingcontact

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    Are you attracted to women but don't screw?

    Yes...im attracted to women.

    No...I dont follow my "natural" desires to go after every woman im attracted to. I have self control.

    I dont smash car windows and steal purses. I have self control.

    I dont punch people when i am angry. I have self control.

    See the pattern here? This big gay push in media is designed to weaken families and further encourage people to chase their desires no matter how selfish and destructive. Theres a lot of profit and control to be had when families are broken or weakened. Look at the prison population. Thats a huge group of people who didnt exhibit self control and just pursued their desires. And look at the result, money being made off of them and extreme control exerted over them.

    I dont hate people caught up in destructive lifestyles whether its the topic discussed here, debt driven consumerism, being a druggie, alcoholic or serial womanizer. But i do want to lovingly encourage them to turn away from their desires and do what is holy, not just what makes them happy. I have my own issues certainly. Im not looking down my nose at anyone. We are called to greater things in life, we shouldnt settle for the lesser things.
     
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    No...I dont follow my "natural" desires to go after every woman im attracted to. I have self control.

    But gays don't? The other two examples you posted are examples of malum en se. Homosexuality between consenting adults has no true victims. Your argument is quickly falling apart here.

    But i do want to lovingly encourage them to turn away from their desires and do what is holy, not just what makes them happy.

    ....aaaaaaaand there it is; the logic self-implosion. "What I am saying is right because my holy book says so." The second half of that argument is unintentionally hilarious. "Stop doing what makes you happy and accept my religion already!"

    At any rate this has now become a religious argument and such is forbidden here. For now I will bow out of the conversation.
     

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    But gays don't? The other two examples you posted are examples of malum en se. Homosexuality between consenting adults has no true victims. Your argument is quickly falling apart here.



    ....aaaaaaaand there it is; the logic self-implosion. "What I am saying is right because my holy book says so." The second half of that argument is unintentionally hilarious. "Stop doing what makes you happy and accept my religion already!"

    At any rate this has now become a religious argument and such is forbidden here. For now I will bow out of the conversation.

    You leave the conversation after starting it with your "sarcasm" post? I know my heart so what ive said here and what i believe doesnt trouble me because its not out of hate.

    There is happiness and there is holiness. Im in pursuit of heavenly holiness not earthly happiness.

    We are in a culture war. Choose your allies. Ive chosen mine.
     

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    Homosexuality has been around for as long as man, and before if you believe life existed before a greater being snapped his fingers.

    It's all over the animal kingdom, not just a human "trait" or whatever you want to call it. This debate is so ridiculously pointless because nobody really listens to the other side anyways.


    Then you have the "gays are bad, hur hur hur" group jumping up and down then they flip on some Internet porn and rub their crotch while they watch two chicks fist pump each other. Cause gays are bad unless it's hot blond gay chicks getting paid to do it in front of a camera.


    Like I said before, the thread is a huge FAIL.
     

    Chirpy

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    My 2 Dads
    MyTwoDads_S1.jpg

    That puts "BJ and the Bear" in a new light.

    I don't remember this show at all.


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    We are in a culture war. You are either on a team or you are in the stands watching.

    Its really plain to me i dont know why some of you all find it so complicated, are unwilling to discern right and wrong, draw a line and stand on one side or the other.

    I speak plainly because i am not ashamed. I know who my allies are in this thing and who my enemies are.
     

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    Soooo, should we round them up and put them in some sort of camp? Maybe start a reeducation program to "fix" them?

    I saw some movies where governments did things like that. Really "helped" the country be "great".

    This guy handled that sort of thing pretty well:

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    Soooo, should we round them up and put them in some sort of camp? Maybe start a reeducation program to "fix" them?

    I saw some movies where governments did things like that. Really "helped" the country be "great".

    This guy handled that sort of thing pretty well:

    pare6ehu.jpg

    Its unfortunate that you took it there...so, we should have no standards as a culture or we are oppressive fascists? Got it. Sounds like hell on Earth to me. By the way can you riddle me this? If gays are supposed to be allowed special rights and to "marry" (no such thing as gay marriage by definition), will the polygamists not be next? Shouldnt the age for consent be lowered to what? Say 14? So those people are "liberated" as well?

    There are forces in this country destroying the foundation of civilization, society and culture which is the family.

    Say it plainly.

    Is our nation better off with more intact families? Stable marriages? Kids growing up with a mother and a father? Or is our nation better off with everyone running around, doing their own thing like perpetual children?

    I believe in the family as that is how stability and culture have been passed down from one generation to the next.

    The radicals believe in chaos so they can break down society and gain more control. These same radicals promoting the gay agenda have no respect for your rights, especially your 2A rights.

    I dont know what else i can say on the matter. If thats who you are allied with in this culture war, just wait until they turn on you.

    For those of you out there on the sidelines in this conversation, speak up.
     
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    Lol, it's unfortunate that separating certain groups and basing it on religion leads to such places.


    Religion is a powerful thing. I have nothing against it, but I can be used to do a lot of harm when you use religion as reason for the control or manipulation of another group.
     

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    Its unfortunate that you took it there...so, we should have no standards as a culture or we are oppressive fascists? Got it. Sounds like hell on Earth to me. By the way can you riddle me this? If gays are supposed to be allowed special rights and to "marry" (no such thing as gay marriage by definition), will the polygamists not be next? Shouldnt the age for consent be lowered to what? Say 14? So those people are "liberated" as well?

    There are forces in this country destroying the foundation of civilization, society and culture which is the family.

    Say it plainly.

    Is our nation better off with more intact families? Stable marriages? Kids growing up with a mother and a father? Or is our nation better off with everyone running around, doing their own thing like perpetual children?

    I believe in the family as that is how stability and culture have been passed down from one generation to the next.

    The radicals believe in chaos so they can break down society and gain more control. These same radicals promoting the gay agenda have no respect for your rights, especially your 2A rights.

    I dont know what else i can say on the matter. If thats who you are allied with in this culture war, just wait until they turn on you.

    For those of you out there on the sidelines in this conversation, speak up.

    Quoted myself to make sure its read.
     

    Younggun

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    Quoted myself to make sure its read.

    You added a pretty big chunk there didn't ya.

    Ok, I'll do my best to give my view on your points.


    As to who should be married:

    It's not for the .gov to decide. Marriage is a religious union and so long as it is not infringing on the rights of another (forced marriage, children, etc) it's not for the gov to regulate. For tax purposes, whatever. But I see no reason that the gov should be able to say "these two couples both do the same things, but only this one shall be married".

    As to what makes a good family:

    Stability. That is the key. Moral value can be moved back and forth on a line and it's hard to nail down certain aspects of morality. Westboro Baptist Church are some sick people, yet they view is as immoral.

    So if two people work hard and support and love their children, raise them to be strong and independent, does it matter that much?

    Do I like the gay protests that pop up on the news from time to time? Not really, I find them annoying and sometimes gross depending on how far they take it. Do I have a problem with a gay couple living up the street, going to work, paying their bills, raising a family, an in many cases, going to church? Nope.

    Do I have a problem with a guy are gal driving a car with a rainbow sticker on the bumper? No worse than some of the heterosexual stuff I've seen on cars and trucks.



    No, I won't buy in to demonizing someone for being gay anymore than I will for someone owning a gun. Yes, there is a vocal intolerant group inside the gay community always screaming about injustice. That exists in the black community also but I don't believe blacks are destroying this country even though they have higher rates of single parent families and incarceration. That is a problem with individuals inside that community.

    So if you want to make a difference, work on an individual who is being irresponsible with multiple partners and risky behavior. I doubt the fact the the individual is gay is any more of a risk than a straight college student takin the same risks with the partners of his or her choice.
     

    jordanmills

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    Finding love in another mans hairy $#@! is family entertainment today.

    Now that's nasty. It's none of my business what any two consenting adults do in private, but someone else getting entertainment value out of it being publicly displayed is pretty revolting.
     
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