We could do this for hours on end with no valid answers.
Could be or could not be. No anywhere close to having enough info, etc. about a gun transfer, person to person, etc.
Nope! Didn't say that. You changed the "scenario" by changing the numbers, etc. involved. And evidently you missed my earlier post:So then you are saying your scenario I based my question on is not valid?
The law states you have to sell to a Texas resident
Thank You! Mr. Renegade!As for how many, this is the Federal Law:
The term “dealer” means (A) any person engaged in the business of selling firearms at wholesale or retail, (B) any person engaged in the business of repairing firearms or of making or fitting special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms, or (C) any person who is a pawnbroker. The term “licensed dealer” means any dealer who is licensed under the provisions of this chapter.
The term “engaged in the business” means—
as applied to a dealer in firearms, as defined in section 921(a)(11)(A), a person who devotes time, attention, and labor to dealing in firearms as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the repetitive purchase and resale of firearms, but such term shall not include a person who makes occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of his personal collection of firearms;
As applied to a dealer in firearms, as defined in section 921(a)(11)(B), a person who devotes time, attention, and labor to engaging in such activity as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit, but such term shall not include a person who makes occasional repairs of firearms, or who occasionally fits special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms;
The term “with the principal objective of livelihood and profit” means that the intent underlying the sale or disposition of firearms is predominantly one of obtaining livelihood and pecuniary gain, as opposed to other intents, such as improving or liquidating a personal firearms collection: Provided, That proof of profit shall not be required as to a person who engages in the regular and repetitive purchase and disposition of firearms for criminal purposes or terrorism. For purposes of this paragraph, the term “terrorism” means activity, directed against United States persons, which—
Thank You! Mr. Renegade!
Sadly, the ATF has been known to use this in its most possible restrictive interpretation.As for how many, this is the Federal Law:
The term “dealer” means (A) any person engaged in the business of selling firearms at wholesale or retail, (B) any person engaged in the business of repairing firearms or of making or fitting special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms, or (C) any person who is a pawnbroker. The term “licensed dealer” means any dealer who is licensed under the provisions of this chapter.
The term “engaged in the business” means—
as applied to a dealer in firearms, as defined in section 921(a)(11)(A), a person who devotes time, attention, and labor to dealing in firearms as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the repetitive purchase and resale of firearms, but such term shall not include a person who makes occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of his personal collection of firearms;
As applied to a dealer in firearms, as defined in section 921(a)(11)(B), a person who devotes time, attention, and labor to engaging in such activity as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit, but such term shall not include a person who makes occasional repairs of firearms, or who occasionally fits special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms;
The term “with the principal objective of livelihood and profit” means that the intent underlying the sale or disposition of firearms is predominantly one of obtaining livelihood and pecuniary gain, as opposed to other intents, such as improving or liquidating a personal firearms collection: Provided, That proof of profit shall not be required as to a person who engages in the regular and repetitive purchase and disposition of firearms for criminal purposes or terrorism. For purposes of this paragraph, the term “terrorism” means activity, directed against United States persons, which—
As for how many, this is the Federal Law:
The term “dealer” means (A) any person engaged in the business of selling firearms at wholesale or retail, (B) any person engaged in the business of repairing firearms or of making or fitting special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms, or (C) any person who is a pawnbroker. The term “licensed dealer” means any dealer who is licensed under the provisions of this chapter.
The term “engaged in the business” means—
as applied to a dealer in firearms, as defined in section 921(a)(11)(A), a person who devotes time, attention, and labor to dealing in firearms as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the repetitive purchase and resale of firearms, but such term shall not include a person who makes occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of his personal collection of firearms;
As applied to a dealer in firearms, as defined in section 921(a)(11)(B), a person who devotes time, attention, and labor to engaging in such activity as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit, but such term shall not include a person who makes occasional repairs of firearms, or who occasionally fits special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms;
The term “with the principal objective of livelihood and profit” means that the intent underlying the sale or disposition of firearms is predominantly one of obtaining livelihood and pecuniary gain, as opposed to other intents, such as improving or liquidating a personal firearms collection: Provided, That proof of profit shall not be required as to a person who engages in the regular and repetitive purchase and disposition of firearms for criminal purposes or terrorism. For purposes of this paragraph, the term “terrorism” means activity, directed against United States persons, which—
A conviction for buyer or seller who in an individual sale bought a handgun out of his state or sold to one who lived out of his state(even son or daughter) is a felony. I personally won't take that risk even once. If he can't show me a TX ID, I'm not selling. I don't write it down, snap a pic, or anything like that...no paperwork...but I'll be able to testify I saw his TX ID. I'm not losing my gun rights over such a rinky-dink felony. Never had a seller ask for my ID in a FTF...the folded Benjamins seem to help them focus on the sale.
Matter of choice which way one handles it...just as long as one doesn't screw up. When they get into a corner, most folks would give up their mothers to get a plea bargaining deal...there are no "secrets" when their balls are in a vise.
There is no guarantee of anonymous. Someone called someone, someone met someone, who copied a license plate? Who saved a phone number? If the gun's used in a crime, or the person who has it is involved in a crime, LEOS start at the manufacturer and can often trace it to where the now seller bought it, or the new buyer tells them how they met you...MANY ways you can be found.
Best is to follow the law carefully, then you haven't broken it...and have nothing to worry about.
There is no guarantee of anonymous. Someone called someone, someone met someone, who copied a license plate? Who saved a phone number? If the gun's used in a crime, or the person who has it is involved in a crime, LEOS start at the manufacturer and can often trace it to where the now seller bought it, or the new buyer tells them how they met you...MANY ways you can be found.
Best is to follow the law carefully, then you haven't broken it...and have nothing to worry about.