Selling pistols to individuals
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Thanks, but no thanks.
The reason I want his info is because if he commits a crime with it or sells it to a felon and the black car comes to my house, I can prove I sold it, not committed the crime.
But that's not here or there, I don't sell any of my weapons anyway, so I don't have to worry about it.
But that's not here or there, I don't sell any of my weapons anyway, so I don't have to worry about it.
For what it's worth, I did have a coworker that sold a firearm 2 years ago and he got a bill of sale. Apparently the firearm must have been used in a crime after he sold it while it was in someone elses possession. ATF did just reach out to him because he bought the firearm new and he was the last recorded owner. He showed them the bill of sale and that it was sold and that was it.
Would the outcome been the same with the ATF if he just told them he sold it without any record? Probably, but may have involved a few extra calls/visits to get to that point would be my guess?
It isnt "proof", it is evidence that will be used against you.
You would be better off not knowing who you sold it to instead of providing evidence to LE you supplied the gun.
Just look at the parents of the recent school shooters now facing charges for the kids shootings even though they broke no laws. Expect that prosecution model to be expanded.
When I was young I sold a MAC-10 to I dont know who. It was used in a murder and traced to me. No BOS just told them I did not know who I sold it to and never heard from them again. 30 second phone call and that was it.
Dont be an idiot and link yourself to a crime.
The lawyers that once recommended getting a bill of sale (BOS) now no longer recommend using one as big government may use this against you as proof you are in the business of selling guns. Even one gun. These are the Texas Law Shield lawyers. Don't do more than what the law requires, Don't think any government agency will be your friend.
Lonesome Dove
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Like everything liberal Let's Go Brandon, Fk em all.
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seeker_two
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You lost the sale at the "I will speak" part. I only buy from mimes.....
General Zod
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Yes, there's nothing quite like linking yourself to a crime to 'protect' you. You can't prove a negative, and you're not required to. The burden of proof is on them. Giving the authorities "reasonable suspicion" to further investigate you is never a smart thing to do.
If they come knocking, the answer is "That gun? Yeah, that must be the one I sold x amount of time ago. Face to face sale. Don't know the guy." And at that point, 100% of your legal obligation has been fulfilled. If you demand that there must be a record of the sale then go through an FFL. You're only setting yourself up to be screwed by keeping any kind of record for yourself.
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