Trump to make statement tomorrow on shootings

[oldag]

A good article on red flag laws, for those who can access.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-yellow-light-for-red-flag-laws-11565132144?mod=hp_opin_pos_3

 

[easy rider]

A good article on red flag laws, for those who can access.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-yellow-light-for-red-flag-laws-11565132144?mod=hp_opin_pos_3

I like Alan Dershowitz and I would enjoy reading that if I didn't have to subscribe.

 

[AustinN4]

I like Alan Dershowitz and I would enjoy reading that if I didn't have to subscribe.

Did you try searching for it on google - sometimes comes up with a no paywall site for the same story.
Edited to add, he is not gun friendly at all:
https://www.nraila.org/articles/201...amendment-an-absurd-thing-in-our-constitution

 

[easy rider]

Did you try searching for it on google - sometimes comes up with a no paywall site for the same story.
Edited to add, he is not gun friendly at all:
https://www.nraila.org/articles/201...amendment-an-absurd-thing-in-our-constitution

No, but he knows law very well and will not deny that guns are protected.

As to the article I could only find snippets.

 

[HKShooter65]

Why hide your stuff when it’s constitutionally protected?

Same reason you would hide arms such as a suppressor you made in your garage or a hand grenade a buddy stole from Ft. Hood.
The limits of constitutional protections, unfortunately, are becoming more fluid, dynamic and unclear.

If it's illegal just don't HAVE it.

 

[HKShooter65]

Ex-wives and those women going through a "rough patch" will have more tools to screw you over.
They just have to say "he's mean and has GUNS" ...
I worry about them glossing over the due process part.

Amen!

Frightening.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Same reason you would hide arms such as a suppressor you made in your garage or a hand grenade a buddy stole from Ft. Hood.
The limits of constitutional protections, unfortunately, are becoming more fluid, dynamic and unclear.

If it's illegal just don't HAVE it.

Hmmm. <Looks around...shrugs>. All my shit’s legal. I’m not a criminal and don’t consort with criminals, which is what your examples indicate.

 

[roadkill]

I like Alan Dershowitz and I would enjoy reading that if I didn't have to subscribe.

Cut and paste link here to get around pay wall. Outline.com

 

[RoadRunner]

The GOA has a pre-written letter that you can add your name to and send to "President Trump reminding him to keep the promises he made to us on the campaign trail to defend our God-given rights."

When my wife and I tried to add our names to it their site was running really slow, so we will try it again later.

Maybe if enough of us add our names the letter he will think twice about what he does concerning further infringement on our 2A rights.

GOA also has a pre-written letter to Senators.

 

[TheDan]

Cut and paste link here to get around pay wall. Outline.com

hmm... Good idea, but doesn't seem to work for wsj.com

 

[busykngt]

Thanks for posting the GOA link to the Senators on opposing the Red Flag law. Done.

 

[TheDan]

Cut and paste link here to get around pay wall. Outline.com

Apparently WSJ sent a cease and desist to Outline, but I did find a Firefox plugin that will bypass it: https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-firefox/blob/master/README.md

I'm going to continue avoiding sites that have paywalls, tho... Don't even want to give them the click.

 

[Dash Riprock]

Still getting a bad feeling about all this. Trump keeps rumbling about background checks, and it's not clear what he means.

https://www.greenwichtime.com/news/article/Trump-warned-by-NRA-over-background-checks-14288843.php

^^^This right here is why we should have never allowed the bump stock ban to happen. Per the above, Joe Manchin, in trying to convince Trump to support UBC's, told Trump that he banned bump stocks and "didn't take any hit on that".

If he does this I'm done with him and might even join the impeachment chorus. At minimum we need to be thinking about an alternative to primary him. This is a deal killer for me.

 

[easy rider]

Good luck finding anyone better.

 

[Dash Riprock]

Pence would be better, but I'm almost at the point where I don't care. We keep propping up the GOP despite the perpetual betrayals on almost every issue, and we gave them the proverbial 2x4 across the head with Trump, and now the 2x4 might be about to betray us also.

This is crap. UBC's would have prevented none of this. NONE. Why is that so hard to understand?

 

[benenglish]

At minimum we need to be thinking about an alternative to primary him.

Good luck finding anyone better.

Even if he goes off the deep end on this I doubt anyone could successfully primary him. Finding someone better might actually require deciding which democrat is least intolerable.

I don't like it but that may be the way things turn out.

Wow. What a downer of a thought...

 

[Renegade]

Per the above, Joe Manchin, in trying to convince Trump to support UBC's, told Trump that he banned bump stocks and "didn't take any hit on that".

Th hit is coming in 2020

 

[Renegade]

Good luck finding anyone better.

In time for 2020, probably not. But we need to play long ball here and let Democrats and Republicans need to know they will not get the votes if they go to the gun control. It is a losing issue.

Both Dems and Reps knew that since Clinton, but it seems to be forgotten now.

 

[Davetex]

We might have to pass our own Red Dawn laws.

 

[easy rider]

Pence would be better, but I'm almost at the point where I don't care. We keep propping up the GOP despite the perpetual betrayals on almost every issue, and we gave them the proverbial 2x4 across the head with Trump, and now the 2x4 might be about to betray us also.

This is crap. UBC's would have prevented none of this. NONE. Why is that so hard to understand?

First of all, you're being a bit hyperbolic. I wasn't talking about propping up the GOP, but I have seen what the Dems have to offer. I believe that most, if not all, Republican politicians would have caved to much bigger demands. Let's take a deep breath and worry about what is proposed and not what is speculated.