Anyone actually have experience with HiPoint?

[cvgunman]

I had a high point once in my life. Think it was in the late sixties or early seventies. Sadly, my high point did not last long, it was totally ruined by the low point in my life.

High Point = the miniskirt
Low Point = pantyhose

 

[ZX9RCAM]

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And she's the auto transport trailer....

 

[DoubleDuty]

I'd pay 90 bucks for a 9mm that I could hide in my truck.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Does it matter if it works?

 

[Geezer]

Does it matter if it works?

I'll take a broken Hi Point if no one else wants one.

 

[satx78247]

Which is which?

TexasRedneck,\

You should NOT have said that, as it made me spit coffee on my laptop screen. = LOL.
(I wouldn't own a Pl@stic B@st@rd if they were giving them out for free.)

yours, satx

 

[satx78247]

To All,

OWNING a 'high point', imo, is fractionally better than throwing a rock at an intruder, as it PROBABLY will shoot at least once.

yors, satx

 

[Mohawk600]

It’s ok as long as you pull out.


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dayuuum......

 

[Mohawk600]

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dayuum again......that one hurted my eyes. One negligent discharge and that balloon will surely pop.

 

[TipBledsoe]

Pistol ammo typically doesn’t have the case capacity and isn’t loaded with power designed to push the bullet all the way down a 16” barrel. After a certain point velocity is going to drop off. If it was you would get a horrendous muzzle flash from your handguns and velocity would suffer.

Loading your own and choosing the right powder might allow for a slight gain, but not much. I messed around with it before but it was several years ago and aside from being pretty close to pistol velocity, I don’t recall what gains I achieved, if any.


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I'm glad you said this. It's something I've been thinking about.
So, for typical factory pistol ammo loads, what would you consider an optimal pistol barrel length to be?
For a pistol that shoots factory ammo rifle loads, and therefore doesn't have adequate barrel length, what amount of velocity degradation do you suppose there would be? (For example, a 1200fps 22lr expects rifle barrel length to reach that muzzle velocity, but a pistol with a 4" barrel surely wouldn't reach 1200fps right? Maybe only 600fps?

 

[satx78247]

I'm glad you said this. It's something I've been thinking about.
So, for typical factory pistol ammo loads, what would you consider an optimal pistol barrel length to be?
For a pistol that shoots factory ammo rifle loads, and therefore doesn't have adequate barrel length, what amount of velocity degradation do you suppose there would be? (For example, a 1200fps 22lr expects rifle barrel length to reach that muzzle velocity, but a pistol with a 4" barrel surely wouldn't reach 1200fps right? Maybe only 600fps?

TipBledsoe,

I think that that depends on WHICH handgun cartridge that you mean. - For example, I know of nobody who would deny that a .357 MAG out of a Marlin carbine is NOT far superior as a "game-getter" than ANY standard revolver is.

yours, satx

 

[TipBledsoe]

TipBledsoe,

I think that that depends on WHICH handgun cartridge that you mean. - For example, I know of nobody who would deny that a .357 MAG out of a Marlin carbine is NOT far superior as a "game-getter" than ANY standard revolver is.

yours, satx

Okay, let's use 357 magnum as an example, being considered primarily a handgun caliber; optimized for a shorter barrel lengrh, 1300fps is a typical average velocity. But its not unusual to see a lever-action rifle also chambered to shoot 357 magnum... So 357 magnum, using a fast-burning pistol powder, expects to see a 4" barrel, not a 24" barrel... Would the 357 magnum bullet fired from a rifle be slowing down below 1300fps as it encountered the resistance of the last half of the rifle barrel?

 

[ZX9RCAM]

I believe we had an example somewhere in this thread, and the rifle was less powerful than the pistol.

 

[Axxe55]

TipBledsoe,

I think that that depends on WHICH handgun cartridge that you mean. - For example, I know of nobody who would deny that a .357 MAG out of a Marlin carbine is NOT far superior as a "game-getter" than ANY standard revolver is.

yours, satx

Okay, let's use 357 magnum as an example, being considered primarily a handgun caliber; optimized for a shorter barrel lengrh, 1300fps is a typical average velocity. But its not unusual to see a lever-action rifle also chambered to shoot 357 magnum... So 357 magnum, using a fast-burning pistol powder, expects to see a 4" barrel, not a 24" barrel... Would the 357 magnum bullet fired from a rifle be slowing down below 1300fps as it encountered the resistance of the last half of the rifle barrel?

Lots of variables going on here when comparing the same cartridge from a pistol to a rifle. Powder selection can be very different. Look at the load data books for a pistol cartridge and many times if it is used also in a rifle, the load data will be different. Barrel length is also a big factor and has to be considered when choosing powders.

As a general rule, if you optimize the load for a rifle, (reloading.) you can get much better performance from a pistol cartridge when shot in a rifle or carbine. Usually more velocity and muzzle energy.

 

[navysooner]

Want to hear from people who have actually shot one or have one. I know it’s crazy talk To want one but I’ve watched the Demolition Ranch video and a couple others that torture tested the HiPoint and it just took it and kept firing. Makes me want one for a truck gun, where I wouldn’t give two shits about what happens to it. My collection has turned in to mostly high end HK and other collectible guns and with current status of the country if something was to happen I wouldn’t want to turn it over to the police. I know they are heavy, ugly, not ergonomic but I want to know if it actually goes bang every time and accurate up to 20yards. Not going for competition here just defense. I always hear,” I wouldn’t trust my life with one” but the same people have never actually shot one and are only regurgitating what they have heard from friends of friends.

so let me get this straight, you want to go to a gun with questionable reliability, because you don’t want to give up something more expensive you used in self defense to save your life.
Yeah totally sounds reasonable to buy a $150 hand gun and trust your life to it.

 

[zackmars]

so let me get this straight, you want to go to a gun with questionable reliability, because you don’t want to give up something more expensive you used in self defense to save your life.
Yeah totally sounds reasonable to buy a $150 hand gun and trust your life to it.

Some people just have little to no self worth.

 

[candcallen]

Want to hear from people who have actually shot one or have one. I know it’s crazy talk To want one but I’ve watched the Demolition Ranch video and a couple others that torture tested the HiPoint and it just took it and kept firing. Makes me want one for a truck gun, where I wouldn’t give two shits about what happens to it. My collection has turned in to mostly high end HK and other collectible guns and with current status of the country if something was to happen I wouldn’t want to turn it over to the police. I know they are heavy, ugly, not ergonomic but I want to know if it actually goes bang every time and accurate up to 20yards. Not going for competition here just defense. I always hear,” I wouldn’t trust my life with one” but the same people have never actually shot one and are only regurgitating what they have heard from friends of friends.

On live pd one night a cop arrested a guy and searched his car and found a bag that was heavy. He said good god what do you got in here a boat anchor? He opened the bag and laughed and said not far off and pulled out a high point hand gun.

In the 80s I had a gun with the brand name Maverick. It was a clunky POS that was a better projectile than it was expelling projectiles. I had to pay some guy 50 bucks just to get him to take it from me. The only good thing about it was the training in malfunction drills I got while attempting to shoot it.


That company and design became....wait for it....high point.

 

[Tonyt915]

so let me get this straight, you want to go to a gun with questionable reliability, because you don’t want to give up something more expensive you used in self defense to save your life.
Yeah totally sounds reasonable to buy a $150 hand gun and trust your life to it.

No one has yet top prove they are less reliable than a $500 firearm yet. Except for if you spike it down on a rock which seems like a reasonable thing to do.

 

[zackmars]

No one has yet top prove they are less reliable than a $500 firearm yet. Except for if you spike it down on a rock which seems like a reasonable thing to do.

Yes, a 150 buck pot metal gun is up there with Glock, S&W, beretta, etc.

You got it.

Just don't drop it. Slide might break in half

 

[zackmars]

No one has yet top prove they are less reliable than a $500 firearm yet. Except for if you spike it down on a rock which seems like a reasonable thing to do.

Why come here, ask advice for a gun you seem to have little to no experience with, then argure with people who tell you things you seem to not like?