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  • Younggun

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    It's strange the you have mentioned drug use two posts in a row while no one else has mentioned it, yet claim no animus.

    You ask if the Libertarian party fights for what's right. I'm not in the homes of other Libertarians or libertarians, so I can't say if they did or didn't make calls. My bet however, considering libertarians and Libertarians are much more centered around personal freedom than conservatives, is that yes the libertarians and Libertarian party members were making calls and sending emails and letters to their representatives.
     

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    Libertarians by their nature are typically against political parties in general, so it's a struggle to field one.

    I've voted for quite a few Rs and Ls. I've never once voted for a D.

    When I do vote for Rs it's only to buy a little more time for myself to prepare before this train goes off the rails. But I will never vote or contribute money to a Boehner or a Christie - my time and money would benefit my family more by doing other things.

    It's a better, more practical, use of my resources to prepare for a tsunami than to prevent one.
     

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    It's strange the you have mentioned drug use two posts in a row while no one else has mentioned it, yet claim no animus.

    You ask if the Libertarian party fights for what's right. I'm not in the homes of other Libertarians or libertarians, so I can't say if they did or didn't make calls. My bet however, considering libertarians and Libertarians are much more centered around personal freedom than conservatives, is that yes the libertarians and Libertarian party members were making calls and sending emails and letters to their representatives.
    I guess you missed this post by Itchy:
    I don't hate but yeah I'm not a fan of canadians. And I'm no liberal. I don't tow any party line. I'm not democrat or republican. Im more libertarian than anything. I'm sick and tired of so called conservatives talking about big government then wanting govt to dictate what people do in their own homes in private or want to dictate what one puts in their own body.
     

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    Yall see they are doing some terror health drill in NYC today?

    "The Rapid Activation for Mass Prophylaxis Exercise (RAMPEx) is testing the city’s ability to respond to the airborne release of anthrax."

    For a second there I thought it was about emergency birth control! ;>)
     

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    I guess we are squabbling over very little then.

    I understand your hesitance towards the Libertarian party. I'm debating on actual membership myself due to a couple of qualms I have.

    I do believe however, that many libertarians (and Libertarians) were involved in the flood if calls and emails you mentioned previously.

    I have no problem with Canadians, as long as they aren't the socialist types. Don't have a problem with conservatives either, long as they aren't telling me how to live.

    Don't have a problem with liberals either, long as they don't tell me....n/m, they all want control.


    Side note: I don't believe "conservative" and "republican" are interchangeable words. More like Libertarian and libertarian. But not quite the same.
     

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    I don't listen to the MSM, what do they say about Libertarians? Anyway, YG you didn't tell me anything I already didn't know about the Libertarian Party and please, understand from the start that I don't hold any animus towards the Libertarian party unlike many Libertarians who dislike Conservatives. I agree with much of what you Libertarians hold dear and that's what we should focus on: where Libertarians, Conservatives, and TEA Party members agree and work together to achieve those goals by winning Congress and the White House. Once we're in power, then we start the internecine squabbling over whether Meth should be legal, in the meantime we have much more pressing issues.

    That's a great idea if you only want to win over half the libertarians and keep the status quo.

    The libertarians causing you problems are the ones voting for Ds right now (not folks like me or YG). The Rs will have to be open on social issues a little more if they want to win them over.
     

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    I guess we are squabbling over very little then.

    Side note: I don't believe "conservative" and "republican" are interchangeable words. More like Libertarian and libertarian. But not quite the same.
    Truer words were never spoke.
     

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    That's a great idea if you only want to win over half the libertarians and keep the status quo.

    The libertarians causing you problems are the ones voting for Ds right now (not folks like me or YG). The Rs will have to be open on social issues a little more if they want to win them over.


    Can you say what those social issues are that are holding them back?
     

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    Gay marriage is a big one.
    I think you'll find that many TEA Party members hold a surprisingly Libertarian view of marriage, Gay or otherwise. That is, the State has no place promoting, denying, or allowing marriage of any sort. For atheists, it should be left up to the two or more consenting partners with provisions made for the issue of said relationship upon dissolution. For Christians, it should be between a Man, Woman, and their Pastor. The State has no place inserting it's will either way. I don't care if two Gays want to marry...if it's a sin, they'll eventually suffer the consequences, I just don't want my payroll tax dollars supporting Gay marriage, whether it's through survivor benefits or anything else.
     

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    Those tax dollars shouldn't be burdened on any marriage through survivor benefits or anything else.

    At the very least, it should be all marriage, or no marriage.

    I will note that the most popular TEA party candidate in Texas, possibly the country, has openly apposed gay marriage. Speaking of Ted Cruz.

    I like Ted, but he is not gonna win over any support for that voting block and the TEA party hasn't shown any interest, that I've seen, in changing that perception.
     

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    Those tax dollars shouldn't be burdened on any marriage through survivor benefits or anything else.

    At the very least, it should be all marriage, or no marriage.

    I will note that the most popular TEA party candidate in Texas, possibly the country, has openly apposed gay marriage. Speaking of Ted Cruz.

    I like Ted, but he is not gonna win over any support for that voting block and the TEA party hasn't shown any interest, that I've seen, in changing that perception.

    Just another reason for me to like Ted Cruz.
     

    Saltyag2010

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    It's strange the you have mentioned drug use two posts in a row while no one else has mentioned it, yet claim no animus.

    You ask if the Libertarian party fights for what's right. I'm not in the homes of other Libertarians or libertarians, so I can't say if they did or didn't make calls. My bet however, considering libertarians and Libertarians are much more centered around personal freedom than conservatives, is that yes the libertarians and Libertarian party members were making calls and sending emails and letters to their representatives.
    Libertarians are more conservative than most mainstream conservatives. I'm with that.

    These laws on prepping are almost the same as the personal or recreational use of drugs. It's behind closed doors in someone's own house. Who should care? Liberals. Liberals care about everything (except the unborn/gun rights/people who don't agree with them). They're the caring party.
     

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    Libertarians are more conservative than most mainstream conservatives. I'm with that.

    These laws on prepping are almost the same as the personal or recreational use of drugs. It's behind closed doors in someone's own house. Who should care? Liberals. Liberals care about everything (except the unborn/gun rights/people who don't agree with them). They're the caring party.

    Prepping is a benefit to a community. Sinful lifestyles are a detriment.
     

    Younggun

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    Sin is a product of religion. It has no meaning outside of that construct.

    Not trying to make this a religious debate, but religion should have no bearing on the laws of this nation.

    All religious (and non religious) entities should be treated with equal disregard by the gov.
     

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    Sin is a product of religion. It has no meaning outside of that construct.

    Not trying to make this a religious debate, but religion should have no bearing on the laws of this nation.

    All religious (and non religious) entities should be treated with equal disregard by the gov.

    That's one view of government.
     
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