in NY, if you rat on a prepper you get $500 from DHS

[breakingcontact]

Stop buying into the liberals and socialists lie that all lifestyles are equal. See, we live in a community with others and not some libertarian lone wolf ethereal paradise.

Some lifestyles contribute to society and civil community and others degrade it.

 

[Saltyag2010]

Prepping is a benefit to a community. Sinful lifestyles are a detriment.

Prepping is for personal or family benefit unless you get raided and it becomes communal.

 

[breakingcontact]

Prepping is for personal or family benefit unless you get raided and it becomes communal.

You having a strong and prepared family is good for the community.

 

[Younggun]

I never said they were equal, but people have a right to live then as long as they aren't infringing on the rights of another.

You have no right to dictate the lives of others, just as they have no right to dictate your life.

We are talking about a free society, not paradise. The idea that you can force people to live in some uber conservative paradise is the true lie. It will not happen, people will resist, and the course will follow as it is unfolding now. Conservatives continue to alienate groups, while the liberals welcome them with open arms.

 

[Younggun]

You having a strong and prepared family is good for the community.

Nor religion required.

 

[Saltyag2010]

You having a strong and prepared family is good for the community.

What I'm trying to get across is thinking smaller. Family vs community. Libertarians want personal freedoms. Communists want big picture equality.

 

[Younggun]

Socialists support those who live a failing lifestyle, libertarians value personal responsibility for those choices. You reap what you sow.

 

[breakingcontact]

I never said they were equal, but people have a right to live then as long as they aren't infringing on the rights of another.

You have no right to dictate the lives of others, just as they have no right to dictate your life.

We are talking about a free society, not paradise. The idea that you can force people to live in some uber conservative paradise is the true lie. It will not happen, people will resist, and the course will follow as it is unfolding now. Conservatives continue to alienate groups, while the liberals welcome them with open arms.

Ha. Wow. Where to start.

I see more conservatives and religious conservatives shun the conveniences provided by the government than libertarians do.

I see conservatives living their beliefs and I hear libertarians talking about theirs.

Thats real talk.

 

[Younggun]

Really, I see very few "religious conservatives" living their beliefs. Most go to church, do some chit chatting, catch up on gossip, and go back to their day to day life of ignoring most of the teachings they go to church for.

That's real talk.

Know plenty of Obama hating conservatives who cash their food stamps and See the Dr with their Medicaid insurance while lying about their income.

More real talk.

Even know a couple who have said if they ever needed gov assistance they would still have their IPhones and cable TV turned on.

Real real talk.


Your claims are biased. Don't bring up fake libertarians if you don't want to talk about fake "conservatives" too.

 

[breakingcontact]

Really, I see very few "religious conservatives" living their beliefs. Most go to church, do some chit chatting, catch up on gossip, and go back to their day to day life of ignoring most of the teachings they go to church for.

That's real talk.

Know plenty of Obama hating conservatives who cash their food stamps and See the Dr with their Medicaid insurance while lying about their income.

More real talk.

Even know a couple who have said if they ever needed gov assistance they would still have their IPhones and cable TV turned on.

Real real talk.


Your claims are biased. Don't bring up fake libertarians if you don't want to talk about fake "conservatives" too.

Looks like we travel in different circles.

 

[Sapper740]

Looks like we travel in different circles.

Boy Howdy!

 

[Sapper740]

Know plenty of Obama hating conservatives who cash their food stamps and See the Dr with their Medicaid insurance while lying about their income.

As BC said, we must REALLY run in different circles.....I don't even know any Liberals that use food stamps, let alone conservatives, but let me ask you a question, how does one lie about their income, isn't it all reported or are there lots of retirees mowing lawns for cash?

 

[Younggun]

Looks like we travel in different circles.

To a degree, I would assume so. But the heart of the matter is that you are choosing to ignore the libertarians who you converse with daily on this forum and base your opinion on those who fit the mold you have in your mind.

You seem to take a similar approach to your view on Christian conservatives. You use those that fit your view as examples, while brushing off those who do not.

I run in to many different types in my daily routine, from a fairly large area of Texas. I'm not biased in my view, I realize there are some who want certain parts of libertarianism but not others. If it gets them to vote libertarian instead of dem, then let'em come.

Strong families are not formed BY churches, they FORM strong churches. Weak families form weak churches.

Things are the products if the people, people are not the products of those things.

You have a lack of faith in humanity, but fail to see that humanity has created that which you have so much faith in. And that is not a discredit to your religion, even with a god, humanity made the choice. Free will.

I do not propose any sort of utopian paradise, not do I expect one. I simply propose that people have the freedom to choose without gov telling them how they must work the details, or who can do what, or how they must do it. Let people have the freedom to destroy their lives, very few will make that choice when they will be faced with the true natural consequences of that choice.

 

[breakingcontact]

Oh the libertarian dream. It must be nice to believe it.

 

[Younggun]

As BC said, we must REALLY run in different circles.....I don't even know any Liberals that use food stamps, let alone conservatives, but let me ask you a question, how does one lie about their income, isn't it all reported or are there lots of retirees mowing lawns for cash?

You've never heard of anyone working for cash under the table? "Single mothers" living with their ex husbands while giving an outward appearance of marriage, reporting little or no income while collecting benefits on the children?

I don't know of any retirees on food stamps. Not sure where you jumped to senior citizens from.

 

[Younggun]

Oh the libertarian dream. It must be nice to believe it.

I could say something very similar to you.

I like how you choose not to address anything in the post directly (or indirectly). You must have taken a debate class at some point.

 

[breakingcontact]

I could say something very similar to you.

I like how you choose not to address anything in the post directly (or indirectly). You must have taken a debate class at some point.

What do you want me to say? Responding to your attacks would only serve to validate them, so I dont.

Id welcome a takeover of the GOP by libertarians. Get on with it.

Whos your new Ron Paul?

 

[Younggun]

Nice deflection.




Only time will tell.

 

[breakingcontact]

On the national level, Sen Cruz is my political leader. Who is yours?

 

[jrbfishn]

Actually, cheating food stamps is REAL easy. In fact, it is set up so that it is harder and more detrimental to you to be honest.


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