FIFYMost people have strong feelings one way, or the other, and know everybody else is wrong.
FIFYMost people have strong feelings one way, or the other, and know everybody else is wrong.
Yep.FIFY
OP said this is not a discussion
So why are people replying?
This thread should be OPs post and that's all.
I am in no way supportive of carrying on an empty chamber in most modern currently made firearms so please don't think my reply is supportive of it. I carry with a live round in the chamber on any of my carry guns.
What I am replying to is that you evidently seem to believe that a person who cannot use one hand, for whatever reason, cannot operate the slide on a semi-automatic pistol. Truth is there are one handed operation techniques for a handgun that include racking the slide. This is something that LE training almost always includes and that non-LEO pistol training should also cover but apparently does not in too many cases; although, I am sure the training is out there if you have the bucks to pay for an advanced class.
As for the idea that a firearm cannot fire unless the trigger is pulled, with all due respect - that is a dangerous idea to hold. Many firearms have inertia firing pins, some others may have faulty mechanisms, other poor design, they sometimes do not need the trigger to be pulled to fire them. Applying enough force by striking them in a certain manner, hitting them on a hard surface such as dropping them can sometimes make them fire. Granted, you probably cannot fire them reliably without squeezing the trigger but you most certainly can cause some shotguns, rifles, and handguns to fire without ever touching the trigger.
Um, that's not what he said.OP said this is not a discussion
So why are people replying?
This thread should be OPs post and that's all.
I'm trying very hard not to be, well...me.
This whole Israeli empty chamber bullshit is, well bullshit.
Dont finger phuck the trigger and learn to properly holster and dont buy shit equipment.....in other words personal responsibility.
Again unless you're carrying something not drop safe its only going to go off if the trigger is pulled.
Yes yes yes there are rare malfunctions but come on, I would bet you have a better chance to..... almost anything then actually witness such an incident.
You do what you think is best. You will atleast look cool like an Israeli commando or tommy lee jones as you present yourself as a welcome easy kill while you present and rack your weapon. Which in the moment of oh my god I just allowed my self to be killed you will probably half cycle or forget a safety or some shit. i.e. die with an impotent useless weapon. Or worse watch a loved one die cause you're a handwringing impotent useless phuck with an impotent useless weapon at the exact instance, the one second of your life you supposedly prepared for.
Complete fraking failure, and someone will die because of it.
Anyways that's why I would advise against an unloaded chamber or cylinder on a personal protection weapon.
That depends if it's a Glock or 1911Yeah, but what caliber is best to not carry in the chamber?
He knew going in it was going to be a bloodbath and thats why he posted it the way he did.
I can write my name on the wall in piss as I pee, both, higher than you and more legible than you.Yeah, but what caliber is best to not carry in the chamber?
I *genuinely* didn't, I know that some discussions over the internet can get frisky so I tried my best to engage in a respectful manner, i really don't understand why most of replies are so polarized.
Had I known, I wouldn't post in the first place. What's the point..?
Someone said before that most people think they're right and everyone else are wrong, I don't see it this way. Different people have different set of reasons, sharing knowledge and experience is a good way to grow, IMHO.