Should the police be defunded/dismantled

[mroper]

Things should be Looked at. Police forces have been pushed into Mental Health services too much. Bring back the State hospitals (or whatever they are called) for the mentally ill.

 

[jrbfishn]

They still have them State hospitals. Texas does anyway. Trouble is, they have revolving doors these days. But it takes a judicial decree or voluntary commitment. And they can not force you to take meds.
You do NOT want it like it used to be where a single psychologist could get you committed on their word at the request of someone that wanted you out of the way.

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[mdf9183]

If they get rid of the police and no one gets arrested, does that mean that they will no longer need lawyers. This could be a good thing.

 

[Big Dipper]

Even better, get rid of all the useless twits that keep enacting more laws that can’t (won’t) be policed or enforced!

 

[deemus]

They still have them State hospitals. Texas does anyway. Trouble is, they have revolving doors these days. But it takes a judicial decree or voluntary commitment. And they can not force you to take meds.
You do NOT want it like it used to be where a single psychologist could get you committed on their word at the request of someone that wanted you out of the way.

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It needed to change for sure. But its still not where it should be.

 

[toddnjoyce]

The movement of the day in SAT is double jeopardy for LEOs. Prosecute until convicted.

 

[Axxe55]

Even better, get rid of all the useless twits that keep enacting more laws that can’t (won’t) be policed or enforced!

That would be an even better start. Too many new laws are passed simply because of failure to enforce existing laws.

 

[newbirdhunter]

The movement towards municipal police forces started in the last half of the 20th century and it's lead to the militarization of the police. That's a bad thing. Police forces do not need APCs and fucking tanks but they have them.

Police departments don't go knocking on Uncle Sam's door asking for MRAPs. The federal government offers them (and much, much more) to local PDs as a way to get rid of them but not let them get in the hands of Johnny Punchclock. If anything, surplus equipment should be sold to the public, repurposed within the military, or dismantled and their parts re-used. I do not agree with the police having military vehicles.

 

[Texasjack]

I think it's a great idea! Defund the police in every Democrat run city and let the asshats burn the place to the ground.

Remember when the movie, "Escape from New York" was considered fiction?

 

[DavidApplegreen]

So with all the calls from the left to de-fund/dismantle the police departments across America

I hope I know the answer to this but does anyone actually think removing police is a good idea ?

THEY DON'T NEED TANKS & MILATARY EQUIMENT

 

[avvidclif]

THEY DON'T NEED TANKS & MILATARY EQUIMENT

If you were trying to control a mob throwing brick, rocks, and whatever else they could find you would appreciate a little steel over your pointy head.

 

[kbaxter60]

THEY DON'T NEED TANKS & MILATARY EQUIMENT

Welcome to the forum!

 

[etmo]

If you were trying to control a mob throwing brick, rocks, and whatever else they could find you would appreciate a little steel over your pointy head.

Agreed. Police militarization makes perfect sense if you expect them to go into crack houses and face down a mob of drug dealers with FA weapons. Funny how nobody is concerned with the lives of police officers and their spouses and children. Remember the North Hollywood shootout? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout Maybe most on this board are too young, but lunatics like that are why the movement to properly arm the police got the political will needed.

If you're happy sending in social workers to apologize to the drug dealers / bank robbers / murderers / rapists and offer them a hug, then I guess you would believe the police don't need any special equipment. But I'd like to ask anyone who is happy sending in those social workers -- what is your plan when those social workers start dying in droves, and you get sued by their families for millions of dollars?

 

[Sammy09]

Here's the defund the police mentality IMHO
Defund the police!!! Unless I need them to validate my cry baby ways and enforce my entitled attitude!!!

Like always throughout history society reacts emotionally and NOT by rationale thoughts/thinking....

People think they have it bad right now, go ahead and defund/dismantle the Police and see what will happen and I'm not advocating for or condone violence in anyway as it just distracts from the true message and needed changes world wide. The point I want to make is violence will happen across the board with all the pent up frustrations on all sides...unfortunately!

 

[Coop45]

I wonder how many issues would be resolved if specific aspects of the PoPo wasn’t used as revenue-generators?
You mean like the cops arresting that guy in NYC for selling looses. Whatever that is.


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[Axxe55]

Agreed. Police militarization makes perfect sense if you expect them to go into crack houses and face down a mob of drug dealers with FA weapons. Funny how nobody is concerned with the lives of police officers and their spouses and children. Remember the North Hollywood shootout? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout Maybe most on this board are too young, but lunatics like that are why the movement to properly arm the police got the political will needed.

If you're happy sending in social workers to apologize to the drug dealers / bank robbers / murderers / rapists and offer them a hug, then I guess you would believe the police don't need any special equipment. But I'd like to ask anyone who is happy sending in those social workers -- what is your plan when those social workers start dying in droves, and you get sued by their families for millions of dollars?

I will counter with sometimes they should act like social workers, and not stormtroopers, or SWAT on every call they go on.

There is a time and place for all forms of police presence and the methods they use to enforce the laws, and to do their jobs. There is a time to use finesse, and compassion in the job of interacting within the community and it's residents, just as there is a time when brute force is the right decision to make. They need to understand that they represent the community, and enforce the laws of our society. They work for us, not the other way around.

Personally, I think some of the problem lies in lack of PROPER training, and officers being hired who are not qualified for the job of being in LE to begin with.

Defunding, or dismantling the police departments isn't the answer, but going forth with no reform of those departments isn't the answer either. There needs to be a balance between officers acting like social workers amd being police officers.

Maybe if Chauvin and taken a breath that day, and acted differently, George Fl;oyd might still be alive, and Derek Chauvin might not be sitting in jail charged with murder at this time.

 

[davidherd]

What scares the shit out of me , what do you replace the police with, some private goon squad.

 

[motorcarman]

What scares the shit out of me , what do you replace the police with, some private goon squad.

Post #66
I'll bet ANTIFA will become the default LAW ENFORCEMENT to fill the void.

They can be politically controlled as they are NOW!

 

[Coop45]

Congratulations Seattle! The first city to have an area occupied by terrorists with guns.

 

[91B10]

These tarded politicians should be wondering who will protect them from us when the cops are gone?