Ukraine has shown to be a professional military that is generally well led. One of Ukraine's perks as russia invaded last year was not having any foreign obligations, all the defense budget went to their defense, but I think it is clear once russia has been pushed back and the war is "over" that Ukraine could offer other NATO countries substantial assistance should the need arise.
I can see value in that. I wasn't trying to ruffle your feathers. This thread is about as involved as I get with the Ukraine war. I genuinely don't know much about it. That's why I ask.
Buffer state is the name of the game for Europe.
i am aware that the requirement was made long before this war and even through last year most counties were not meeting that requirement. Reality hitting them in the face last year doesn’t make it our emergency.Of course you are aware that some of the NATO countries are ramping up their defense budgets as a result of this current Russian aggression?
Trump’s tantrum didn’t inspire them to move, but reality has hitthe lazy in the face since Feb. 24th of last year:
NATO chief eyes bigger defense budgets, hard spending target amid war in Ukraine
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg is urging the 30 member countries to commit to spending at least 2 percent of their gross domestic product on their defense budgets by a set date.www.pbs.org
I would not be surprised if, after this finishes playing out, the ruzzian "federation" falling apart is another putler accomplishment. Megalomaniac wanted to rebuild the ruzzian empire, he's going to put it on the ash heap of history.
While in theory I agree but in reality I have never been in any situation where everyone pulled their weight. There are always slackers.
I see your point but if I based everything in my life around pulling equal weight I wouldn't have a gf, kids, pets and would have to find solo work. It's possible to do but not likely for me. I just accept that fact that I will have to do extra in order to get things done and the things I want.
And its why I try to answer... hope I didnt come across as miffed.
True, but in the case of Ukriane I think they have been shown to be anything but slackers. I think you can see who the slackers are when you look at how little a couple of NATO member states have contributed relative to their defense budget (france mostly comes to mind)
You'd think twice in one century woulda motivated them a little more. I'm surprised those dumbasses aren't rebuilding the Maginot Line and sitting on their butts.
I have read your posts and I understand you have an affinity for Ukraine. Eveyone has things that they are passionate about. I appreciate this thread having multiple sides to discussion.
....... that you????
